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| li_wing |
| Why is it that the chinese people think it is important to learn english while, others think it is important to know chinese ??? |
| Keith |
| Chinese learn english because we want to rule the world.
Non Chinese want to learn chinese because they are aware of the shape of things to come. |
| edwardchiu |
quote:
Originally posted by li_wing
Why is it that the chinese people think it is important to learn english while, others think it is important to know chinese ???
Why is it that the chinese people think it is important to learn chinese while, others think it is important to know english ??? [;)] [;)] [;)]
Okay, jokes aside. What're you trying to tell us? Get to the point. If you ask a rhetorical question for which there's no "right" answer, that's not going to help you much. Which "Chinese people?" In Mainland? In Calcutta? Or Toronto? And who are these "others?" White people? Indians? Or what? [?] [?] [?] |
| li_wing |
| By Chinese people I meant "Mainland CHinese" and by others I mean in general other people specially from the west.
Dont you think it is such that Mainlanders find it important to know English while , "Others" , specially from the west, seeing the growth & spread of chinese population think that it is important to learn chinese. |
| edwardchiu |
| Yeah, come to think of it, the craze to learn English is very common all over Korea and Japan too. Must be Hollywood-induced.
When I was in Toronto, I went for some basic Mandarin classes. There were about 10 people of Chinese origin.
But aside from us, there were two white Canadians, one French-Canadian, one Indian and one Greek. Guess what these people were there for?
All were there because someone in the family, or a boyfriend or girlfriend, was Chinese [:D]. I guess it's not all business, eh? [^] |
| K3VIN |
| come to think of it, chinese ppl are just trying to blend possibly, and the english westerners....well, they're just scared
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| vin_diesel |
| chinese learns english coz dats da language for commerce.... gota kno it to do business..... non chinese learns english so they order stuff frm cheap factories in china ...and order decent foood in chinese restaursnts arnd da corner[:D]
too many consiracy thoeries |
| aaron_wong |
| [8D][:)>-]to know chinese is our birth right since we are born as chinese its a must to know our mother tongue!!!and to learn english is a must to survive in today's world!!!english is the language of the world,everything thing depends on it!!!
p.s--[}:)]without english we wouldnt be able to put across our thoughts in this website's forum!!!ha!ha!ha![:))][:))] |
| edwardchiu |
quote:
Originally posted by aaron_wong
p.s--[}:)]without english we wouldnt be able to put across our thoughts in this website's forum!!!ha!ha!ha![:))][:))]
You could use Big5 encoding. [;)] |
| li_wing |
quote:
Originally posted by aaron_wong
[8D][:)>-]to know chinese is our birth right since we are born as chinese its a must to know our mother tongue!!!and to learn english is a must to survive in today's world!!!english is the language of the world,everything thing depends on it!!!
p.s--[}:)]without english we wouldnt be able to put across our thoughts in this website's forum!!!ha!ha!ha![:))][:))]
according to current research , 60% of the websites on the internet are "non-english" .... [:)][:)] |
| Keith |
| ISH NO CON. TEO.
BIBLE SAID DRAGON RULE THE WURLD.
DRAGON ISH CHI-NA |
| aaron_wong |
| [:)>-]well atleast for this website english is required for communication!!agree guys!![}:)][:))][:))] |
| Keith |
| I don't mind if we use chinese or hindi, maybe even bengali??? |
| kool_loving_babe |
| Chinese as a matter of fact is a very complicated language. Out of every 10 Chinese there is only 1 who knows chinese very well.[>:P] I mean in speaking or in writing.[yap]3 from the list can speak chinese.
English I say is simple and much easy to understand.[:-?] In India the children studies english as it was influenced by the British before the Independence of the country.But not to forget Chinese is one language which is ruling the world.[\:D/]
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| kool_loving_babe |
| The Chinese Indians are lucky to have chinese school.But sadly there is no one to teach.
Like King Kok Chinese School, Mei Kong, etc.... |
| aaron_wong |
| [8D]well yeah ur right brenda not many chinese people left also in kolkata who are willing to teach chinese,they r much to busy with their lives or happily settled abroad!!![*-:)] |
| jennylee |
| hmm i was studying chinese but that chinese teacher also went to kalimpong to teach.. hmm.. and there r some in tangra but... tangra is way too far from where i stay.. |
| aaron_wong |
| [8D]well dun forget i was studying from her tooo!!!!anyways isnt she back i thought she would jess teach there for a year's time only!!![#:-S] |
| K3VIN |
| i know a skool for ppl learning the language and the teacher isnt even chinese there |
| aaron_wong |
| [8D]dat jess proves how popular chinese language is...........!!![^] |
| edwardchiu |
| It's only $75 or so to study Mandarin at the new Chinese Cultural Centre at Progress and Sheppard, cheaper for students and seniors. So if anyone's not too good with Chinese, you can go brush up for cheap there. |
| ally |
| oh boi chinese!speaking mandarin is fine but reading n writing oh boi. i really need to improve, otherwise i'll flunk. :( |
| Keith |
| After reading & writing, there is the need to type endless 'reports'?? |
| K3VIN |
| never mind chinese, i cant even write reports in english very properly |
| davidli2k |
| It doesn't matter if others think it is important to learn english or learn chinese, what I think is that learning any other language besides your mother tongue will not only benefit yourself but will also get you around places. I strongly agree that English is "THE" most universal language nowadays, but let's not forget there are other languages too.....
We Indian born chinese are lucky in the sense that we know at least 3 languages - Hindi, English & Hakka(or cantonese or Hupak etc). So generally speaking, we have the best of 3 worlds, India, China & the West. But the thing is we do not know our own mother tongue too well. We may listen well, but most of us can't read or write chinese and there are some chinese in India who dont even know how to speak their own mother tongue..........well, I think it's really sad that being a chinese, one cannot even converse in Chinese......
O.K, coming back to the topic...I think it is equally important to learn english or chinese. To know chinese, like someone mentioned earlier, is our birthright. We should be happy to speak in our own dialect, be it Hakka or cantonese or Hupak or Mandarin. A survey conducted by the Reader's Digest showed that children who learn to speak at least 2 languages besides their mother tongue are more bright than children who can only speak one language and their ability to learn and grasp concepts is far more better then their counterparts.
So the moral of the story: It is always better to know one extra language. It wont do you any harm. You can always use that extra language to abuse someone who wont even know what you are blabbering about. |
| aaron_wong |
| [8D]well wise jim has a rule in life which i would like to share with all my fellow people!!!be it any language in this world,nothing is easy to learn if we dont work hard at learning it![L-)] "the secret of sucess is 99% prespiration and 1% inspiration!"[*-:)][*-:)][:)>-] |
| K3VIN |
| tru...if u work hard, im sure a Canadian could learn German
Wenn Sie versuchen, können Sie wie ich so gut sein!
(If you try, you can be as good as me!)
(German is one of the worlds hardest languages to learn) |
| Col. G-force |
| I sure prefer English over Chinese. But right now, that is slowly changing. My English is deteriorating! Pray I don't pick up Taiwanese English. And by chinese I mean Mandarin. There's no one here with whom I can speak Hakka with! Infact when my friends call or my family, I end up speaking in Mandarin!! [:((] |
| ally |
quote:
Originally posted by K3VIN
tru...if u work hard, im sure a Canadian could learn German
Wenn Sie versuchen, können Sie wie ich so gut sein!
(If you try, you can be as good as me!)
(German is one of the worlds hardest languages to learn)
yeah german is the most difficult language to learn. its grammmar is more difficult than english. [:0]
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| cliff |
quote:
Originally posted by ally
yeah german is the most difficult language to learn. its grammmar is more difficult than english. [:0]
German is not the most difficult one, but one of the most difficult one.
do you know how difficult Chinese is? [:D]
check this...
http://www.mtholyoke.edu/~eagerchm/tutorial/attitudes.html
and according to facts, the most difficult language is Basque, [:0] never heard of that before...[:)]
http://www.factmonster.com/ipka/A0769288.html |
| K3VIN |
| never heard of it either, prob y its the hardest |
| s2104050 |
| What happen to the teacher who left for kalimpong to teach? Isnt she back and teaching again? She was really a good chinese manderine teacher. Staying here in Taiwan, i'm almost forgetting Hindi and Bengali..!!... |
| s2104050 |
| How's your studies going on ally? I have to pick one foreign language from German, French, Japanese or Italian? Oh boy, any suggestions, which one is better..??.. |
| kool_loving_babe |
| take up french.... if u plan to come to Canada. infact its very important to know french if u wanna work in canada. |
| edwardchiu |
quote:
Originally posted by kool_loving_babe
take up french.... if u plan to come to Canada. infact its very important to know french if u wanna work in canada.
This is a bit of a myth. It's actually more important to know Mandarin. [=))] The French myth was propagated in the '80's to get Quebec to sign on to the Constitution. Even then, very few people east of Ottawa spoke French. So unless you plan to work in federal government (unlikely) or Quebec (slightly likely), knowing French is totally optional.
However, if you want to set up business, or work in a pvt. business in Toronto, there's a good chance you'll meet three or four customers every day who don't speak English or French at all... and maybe one of these people speak only Chinese! [:0] So it is important to know Chinese. [>:D<]
Anyway, here's a guide to help you decide which language to study. All statistics. [:p]
http://www.mtholyoke.edu/~eagerchm/tutorial/reasons.html |
| s2104050 |
| Thanks guys for the cool suggestions..!!.. |
| kool_loving_babe |
quote:
Originally posted by edwardchiu
quote:
Originally posted by kool_loving_babe
take up french.... if u plan to come to Canada. infact its very important to know french if u wanna work in canada.
This is a bit of a myth. It's actually more important to know Mandarin. [=))] The French myth was propagated in the '80's to get Quebec to sign on to the Constitution. Even then, very few people east of Ottawa spoke French. So unless you plan to work in federal government (unlikely) or Quebec (slightly likely), knowing French is totally optional.
However, if you want to set up business, or work in a pvt. business in Toronto, there's a good chance you'll meet three or four customers every day who don't speak English or French at all... and maybe one of these people speak only Chinese! [:0] So it is important to know Chinese. [>:D<]
Anyway, here's a guide to help you decide which language to study. All statistics. [:p]
http://www.mtholyoke.edu/~eagerchm/tutorial/reasons.html
Since He is in Taiwan....he must be studying Mandarin. He already knows English....so i guess French is next. Thats what i think....
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| formosa |
| [img]http://www.mtholyoke.edu/~eagerchm/tutorial/worldspeakers.jpg[/img]
Bengali in the 4th place ? [:0]
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| steffi_ching |
quote:
Originally posted by formosa
[img]http://www.mtholyoke.edu/~eagerchm/tutorial/worldspeakers.jpg[/img]
Bengali in the 4th place ? [:0]
santa maria !!!im shocked[:0] ... where did u get that from ? |
| jennylee |
| Geez thats the first thing i saw too..lol how did bengali come to be in 4th place. lol.. only in west bengal and bangladesh.. hmmm |
| jennylee |
| Maybe whoever made that graph was a bengali hehehe... |
| noelhuang |
quote:
Originally posted by jennylee
Maybe whoever made that graph was a bengali hehehe...
no only a bengali and a very patriotic indian also coz u can see a lots of indian language there...but i will never believe that stats |
| s2104050 |
| Yeah Brenda, guess ya right..!!..French is next..!!....Cool graph.....thanks guys... |
| cliff |
| first look at the population of India and Bangladesh... India is ranked 2nd and Bangladesh 8th in population.. so now u know why so many Bengalis [:)] |
| edwardchiu |
quote:
Originally posted by noelhuang
quote:
Originally posted by jennylee
Maybe whoever made that graph was a bengali hehehe...
no only a bengali and a very patriotic indian also coz u can see a lots of indian language there...but i will never believe that stats
Are you sure? [;)]
Choosing a Language to Study:
the role of attitudes and ease
by Liddy Gerchman
First-year Honors Tutorial: Second Language Acquisition
Donna Van Handle
Mount Holyoke College, South Hadley, Massachusetts
Not many bhadralok I know named Gerchman and van Handle. [:D] |
| ally |
quote:
Originally posted by s2104050
How's your studies going on ally? I have to pick one foreign language from German, French, Japanese or Italian? Oh boy, any suggestions, which one is better..??..
my studies are fine! how are urs? |
| s2104050 |
| It's going on fine, yesterday i came to tai chung hsein for some work and it was raining like anything. |
| steffi_ching |
quote:
Originally posted by s2104050
It's going on fine, yesterday i came to tai chung hsein for some work and it was raining like anything.
[:-?] .. is this thread about "hi ..how are you ?" or is it just going off topic ??? |
| khchung |
| hahha....Its all about the language...literally or metaphorically..haha |
| li_wing |
I'M NOT SURPRISED , APPARENTLY THE POPULATION OF INDIA AND CHINA PUT TOGETHER MIGHT ME ALMOST HALF THE POPULATION OF THE WORLD, SO INDIAN AND CHINESE LANGUAGES TOPING THE GRAPH IS NOT SURPRISING
quote:
Originally posted by formosa
[img]http://www.mtholyoke.edu/~eagerchm/tutorial/worldspeakers.jpg[/img]
Bengali in the 4th place ? [:0]
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| Mizzter_lee |
| I think our Hakka dialect is the kicks ass language of all language, I feel an enormous comfort and pride when talking Hakka among us in front of all other Chinese speakers, and I also refuse to speak English or any other foreign languages when I~{!/~}m with my family members and as well as among my Hakka friends~{!-!-~}.. |
| s2104050 |
| Language is the way of communication between people. It doesn't matter what language you speak or say as long as the message is understood. Wonder why some people like to show off..??... |
| steffi_ching |
quote:
Originally posted by s2104050
Language is the way of communication between people. It doesn't matter what language you speak or say as long as the message is understood.
i totally agree to that ... but about the show off part ... i guess u forgot to mention 'a few exceptions'... i would rather call them ppl who are proud of their background [:)].. n i think that u should atleast know how to speak a little of ur mother tongue ... i find it kind of odd not knowing it[:D]..
well n eways diff ppl have diff point of view[;)] |
| Sweet_Cathy |
| Well, I feel Hakka and the HongKong Cantonese sound too rowdy.. It's as if people are fighting when they talk...
Maybe that's the reason the Indians say " cheena malai chong chong" when we stray into a Bangali Para..[:)]
Mandarin sounds more polite and gentle... And English is the EASIEST way one can express himself... |
| s2104050 |
| Not bad sweet cathy...I would agree to that..!!...[<:-P]... |
| edwardchiu |
| Language can be a very chauvinistic issue. [:-SS] E.g. the Quebeckers. [L-)] |
| Jackal |
quote:
Originally posted by Sweet_Cathy
Well, I feel Hakka and the HongKong Cantonese sound too rowdy.. It's as if people are fighting when they talk...
Maybe that's the reason the Indians say " cheena malai chong chong" when we stray into a Bangali Para..[:)]
Mandarin sounds more polite and gentle... And English is the EASIEST way one can express himself...
Take a few empty cannisters and saucers.. Throw them into the air and listen to the sounds when they fall to the ground.. That's Chinese language !! |
| flojo |
| When I speak to my family in hakka... i can't help it but throw in a bit of english aswell... just helps me explain myself better.. so i speak half hakka and english... [:p]
We speak alot of english here between our cousins and friends(we live in australia, der)... you kinda forget how to say some words in hakka.. soon enough we're not gonna be able to communicate with our elders (uncles and aunties etc in canada, india...) who arent so familiar with english...
damn, i wanna be able to talk to my kids in hakka man...
oh gosh I'm blabbering.... [yap] |
| edwardchiu |
quote:
Originally posted by flojo
When I speak to my family in hakka... i can't help it but throw in a bit of english aswell... just helps me explain myself better.. so i speak half hakka and english... [:p]
We speak alot of english here between our cousins and friends(we live in australia, der)... you kinda forget how to say some words in hakka.. soon enough we're not gonna be able to communicate with our elders (uncles and aunties etc in canada, india...) who arent so familiar with english...
damn, i wanna be able to talk to my kids in hakka man...
oh gosh I'm blabbering.... [yap]
One of our sitemates has posted a handy guide here:
http://www.wowchinese.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=543
[;)] |
| flojo |
edwardchiu Posted - 05 Aug 2004 : 14:38:42
One of our sitemates has posted a handy guide here:
http://www.wowchinese.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=543
LOL!! [=))] Thanks but no thanks! [;)] [:p] |
| aaron_wong |
| [8D]yeps even i feel more comfy using english and chinese combined when m speaking with frens!!!but with elder aunties n uncles its a no!no!no![#:-S] |
| Mizzter_lee |
| Iˇ¦m a typical Chinese gook; chopstick is a perfect utensil for me. I donˇ¦t trust Non-Asian made Rice-cooker, Iˇ¦m a 100% Hakka/Chinese born and raised, Hakka pride is in my blood all the way. And I wow to speak hakka with my fellow hakkas as always, because this my mother- tongues so in future even my kids arenˇ¦t shameful or uncomfy speaking hakkaˇK.
When a kwai-lor comes to my Asian-land I give highest honor to them for trying to speak and for trying to learn my language, never will I copied or trying to make fun of them or try to embarrass them. Moreover I always encourages them to learn my language...
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| Keith |
| I AM LOST. WHICH RICE COOKER IS THE BEST?? |
| Mizzter_lee |
quote:
Originally posted by Keith
I AM LOST. WHICH RICE COOKER IS THE BEST??
Huh??? you're (fine) so long as you lost in chinatown....[:0]
THEY CALL ME GOOK
By Sophear, Lowell, MA
They laugh because I look different
They ponder because of my accent
They look
They laugh
Then they smile
Then I smile
Eh, Gook!
*Have you seen one of my dogs?
**Meow! Meow! Cats, too!
**Where are you from?
-Me come From China
*South America!?
-Ughhh...No.
**whynya getˇ¦n the boat and go back home!
-Me have not boat.
*Eh, Gook, show me your Kungfu!
**Ee-ah! Ee-ah!
-What Kungfu?...
*Do you smoke dope?
-Me no smoke cigarette.
**Do you have car in your country?
**What's your pet?
*A cobra?
*I bet you love to eat your pet.
-You speak for me,
I no like it
They laugh at my accent.
They say I have an accent.
All slanted eyes people are Bruce Lees.
Who's Bruce Lee?
What's Kungfu?
*Eh, what's your name?
-I am fine, thank you.
*What do people call you, Gook?
_They call me Gook. |
| Keith |
| ME TOTALLY KONFUSED!! FORM RICE COOKER TO ACCENTS ....... TO BRUCE LEES TO KUNGFU AND BACK TO GOOK?
DISH ISH 'PHAI-KIA'.
U REALLY FINE??? |
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